Youtube Youtube Notes: 0 views, shadowban, decreased views

[GrinderTainted]

I've been working with social media since 2008 and have big pages on Facebook and Instagram. From my experience, what people write online isn't always right. You need to rely on your own observations and draw your own conclusions.

Here's what I've noticed on YouTube recently:

I started a music channel two months ago, focusing on Shorts. I have 3,500 subscribers and about 900,000 hours of watch time. My channel has been doing well, getting about 100,000 views every 24 hours. But every time I try to start a second channel, it suddenly stops getting views.

My second channel got blocked due to copyright issues. There was no strike, but the video became private, and after that, none of my channels got views except the first one. Four days ago, my first channel's views dropped suddenly from 100,000 a day to 6,000 a day. It wasn't a shadowban since it still appeared on subscribers' home pages, but it seemed to disappear from Shorts.
Today, my channel started getting good views again on the videos that were doing well before. Here's what I did: I stopped posting on any channel for three days, deleted all accounts from Chrome except the email for my main channel, and waited. I'm not sure if what I did helped, or if the channel would have come back on its own after three days. The important thing is, the channel is back.
I only post one Short a day to avoid spamming.



It's 6 AM in Greece.

 

[GrinderTainted]

*9000 hours, not 900,000 hours. Haha.

 

[Sealoye]

A penalty or violation on the second channel can affect the first channel. However, simply opening a second channel won't have any impact.

 

[Tersbyte]

Were the two channels linked to each other?

 

[GrinderTainted]

Were the two channels linked to each other?

No, I have multiple Gmail accounts. I switch accounts in my browser daily to check my views or upload new videos and more.

 

[MdoggMister]

It's great to hear you were able to get back on track. I would never consider removing the other emails. If I ever face a situation like yours, I'll follow the same steps.

 

[Lunatoury]

I've been working with social media since 2008 and have big pages on Facebook and Instagram. From my experience, what people write online isn't always right. You need to rely on your own observations and draw your own conclusions.

Here's what I've noticed on YouTube recently:

I started a music channel two months ago, focusing on Shorts. I have 3,500 subscribers and about 900,000 hours of watch time. My channel has been doing well, getting about 100,000 views every 24 hours. But every time I try to start a second channel, it suddenly stops getting views.

My second channel got blocked due to copyright issues. There was no strike, but the video became private, and after that, none of my channels got views except the first one. Four days ago, my first channel's views dropped suddenly from 100,000 a day to 6,000 a day. It wasn't a shadowban since it still appeared on subscribers' home pages, but it seemed to disappear from Shorts.
Today, my channel started getting good views again on the videos that were doing well before. Here's what I did: I stopped posting on any channel for three days, deleted all accounts from Chrome except the email for my main channel, and waited. I'm not sure if what I did helped, or if the channel would have come back on its own after three days. The important thing is, the channel is back.
I only post one Short a day to avoid spamming.

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It's 6 AM in Greece.

First of all, I've already made a big post with proof about this issue (you can check it out below):

MMO

Secondly, this is a common problem. YouTube's backend is automated by Google DeepMind, a reinforcement learning-based AI system. It evolves, updates, and detects new patterns related to spammers' tactics. Recent updates were deployed by Google to combat spam on YouTube. Therefore, if you create multiple channels on the same IP to upload similar content, your channels may be flagged for spam.
Lastly, fluctuations in views can be due to general algorithm cycles. You may experience spikes and drops in views, which is typical for most social media platforms.

 

[Paychal]

I'm not an expert, but I do well on YouTube, especially with shorts. I can confidently say that the reason your views picked up again wasn't because you deleted any channels. YouTube seems to control the number of views your channel gets and doesn't like it when you get too many views quickly.

When this happens, they'll stop or slow down your views, but if you give it time, your views will start to increase again. This has been my observation. Hope this helps clarify things.

 

[Cropol]

I'm not an expert, but I do well on YouTube, especially with shorts. I can confidently say that the reason your views picked up again wasn't because you deleted any channels. YouTube seems to control the number of views your channel gets and doesn't like it when you get too many views quickly.

When this happens, they'll stop or slow down your views, but if you give it time, your views will start to increase again. This has been my observation. Hope this helps clarify things.

You should have stopped after admitting you're no expert because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. YouTube doesn't dislike it when you get too many views, that's simply not true. Also, YouTube doesn't control how many views a channel gets. You're just making things up.

 

[Lunatoury]

You should have stopped after admitting you're no expert because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. YouTube doesn't dislike it when you get too many views, that's simply not true. Also, YouTube doesn't control how many views a channel gets. You're just making things up.

YouTube controls how many views a channel gets, or else they wouldn't be able to share views and money fairly with all the creators on the platform. If they didn’t control the views, you would see some videos getting unlimited or crazy large numbers of views, which isn’t possible. There are only so many people on the platform, and there are so many channels uploading content.

YouTube has to make sure everyone has a chance to get their videos seen, and they also want to keep showing people new and interesting content. All of this can only happen if YouTube controls how views are spread across channels.

 

[Proudel]

YouTube controls how many views a channel gets, or else they wouldn't be able to share views and money fairly with all the creators on the platform. If they didn’t control the views, you would see some videos getting unlimited or crazy large numbers of views, which isn’t possible. There are only so many people on the platform, and there are so many channels uploading content.

YouTube has to make sure everyone has a chance to get their videos seen, and they also want to keep showing people new and interesting content. All of this can only happen if YouTube controls how views are spread across channels.

There’s definitely a limit on how many views Shorts can get. From what I’ve seen, the "caps" usually happen around 450 views and again around 12k views. Once YouTube has enough data about how good your content is, these caps seem to disappear. Long-form videos work a bit differently. Once you "prove yourself," your videos start appearing in suggested and browse feeds, which helps you reach a bigger audience.

It doesn't make sense for big channels with a good history (no copyright issues, no rule-breaking) to have view limits. YouTube is a business, and businesses are all about making money. Putting view limits on their biggest creators would hurt their revenue. That’s why big creators like IShowSpeed, who showed inappropriate content on a livestream, and Sssniperwolf, who got away with doxxing, didn’t face huge consequences. You don’t harm your top earners.

 

[Cropol]

YouTube controls how many views a channel gets, or else they wouldn't be able to share views and money fairly with all the creators on the platform. If they didn’t control the views, you would see some videos getting unlimited or crazy large numbers of views, which isn’t possible. There are only so many people on the platform, and there are so many channels uploading content.

YouTube has to make sure everyone has a chance to get their videos seen, and they also want to keep showing people new and interesting content. All of this can only happen if YouTube controls how views are spread across channels.

There are billions of people around the world watching YouTube every day. People use tricks to get the algorithm to recommend their videos or to promote their content through ads. The algorithm isn’t always fair, and there are lots of creators who get no views or impressions at all. It's not because of some "shadowban" or hidden view limit.

That’s why when people use these tricks or promote their channels, their views go up quickly. And no, I'm not talking about buying a few thousand views like some people complain about on this forum. I’m talking about getting at least 80,000 views or more to get the algorithm to notice you, or using the browse feature to get more views. And before you say you can’t manipulate the browse feature, you actually can. Browse feature views come from more than just the trending page or homepage—they also come from the subscription feed and the "Watch Later" feed.

 

[Lunatoury]

There are billions of people around the world watching YouTube every day. People use tricks to get the algorithm to recommend their videos or to promote their content through ads. The algorithm isn’t always fair, and there are lots of creators who get no views or impressions at all. It's not because of some "shadowban" or hidden view limit.

That’s why when people use these tricks or promote their channels, their views go up quickly. And no, I'm not talking about buying a few thousand views like some people complain about on this forum. I’m talking about getting at least 80,000 views or more to get the algorithm to notice you, or using the browse feature to get more views. And before you say you can’t manipulate the browse feature, you actually can. Browse feature views come from more than just the trending page or homepage—they also come from the subscription feed and the "Watch Later" feed.

What you said doesn't really address my point. You called out the other person for not being an expert and claimed they were making stuff up, but that’s exactly what you’re doing here.

Let me remind you of what you said earlier:

"Second, YouTube does not control how many views a channel gets. You are just making up bullshit and you know it."

That statement is wrong. The YouTube algorithm does, in fact, control how many views a channel gets.

"Second, YouTube does not control how many views a channel get. You are just making up bullshit and you know it."

that statement which you made is false. the youtube algorithm literally controls views.

 

[Cropol]

What you said doesn't really address my point. You called out the other person for not being an expert and claimed they were making stuff up, but that’s exactly what you’re doing here.

Let me remind you of what you said earlier:

"Second, YouTube does not control how many views a channel gets. You are just making up bullshit and you know it."

That statement is wrong. The YouTube algorithm does, in fact, control how many views a channel gets.

"Second, YouTube does not control how many views a channel get. You are just making up bullshit and you know it."

that statement which you made is false. the youtube algorithm literally controls views.

You and the other person were suggesting that you're stuck relying on the algorithm, which is exactly what I was talking about. The truth is, you don't have to just wait for the algorithm to notice you. You can actually get its attention and make it promote your content. I've done it myself, and I’m still doing it.

 

[Lunatoury]

You and the other person were suggesting that you're stuck relying on the algorithm, which is exactly what I was talking about. The truth is, you don't have to just wait for the algorithm to notice you. You can actually get its attention and make it promote your content. I've done it myself, and I’m still doing it.

If your channel is being held back by the algorithm, whether on purpose or due to some glitch, it’s really hard to fix that on your own. I've even had to contact YouTube support or employees to get a shadowban removed before.

I also use private views and engagement methods, which can help push videos into the algorithm and make them perform better than competitors. But if the channel itself is being suppressed by the algorithm, there's not much you can do. You can either wait for it to fix itself, or reach out to YouTube partner support or an employee to try to resolve it.

It would be easy to prove if you had a method that worked. Try fixing the reach of someone whose channel is being throttled. If your method can improve their reach, then great.

The truth is, the algorithm controls your views—whether your content is good or bad—because if it didn't, you would get unlimited views.

There are only so many people around the world who can watch videos, and with so many creators uploading content, there just aren’t unlimited views to go around. So, from this limited "pie," views have to be shared fairly among all creators.

In this situation, it’s pretty clear that there’s some form of "traffic control" or "traffic shaping" happening for each channel. Every channel can only get so much traffic because fair distribution is necessary.

That means the algorithm still controls how many views your channel gets, and you're at its mercy. While tricks or hacks might help you get more views than usual, they can only take you so far. You can’t control the views to the point where you can get as many as you want.

 

[DevWolfie]

You and the other person were suggesting that you're stuck relying on the algorithm, which is exactly what I was talking about. The truth is, you don't have to just wait for the algorithm to notice you. You can actually get its attention and make it promote your content. I've done it myself, and I’m still doing it.

Check out my case here, and maybe then you'll see that view throttling on YouTube is real—despite what some self-proclaimed YouTube experts might say in their videos.

MMO

I've reached out to dozens of so-called gurus, influencers, SEO specialists, promotional experts, and YouTube coaches for help. NONE of them could offer any useful advice or solutions. None of their promo tips, tricks, or "just improve your content" advice helped me break through the monthly view cap on my channel.

That's because shadowbans and view throttling are strictly algorithm issues, and only someone at YouTube can fix them.

I can guarantee this: if I uploaded my videos (same content, SEO, etc.) on your channel, through your IP/device/Adsense, or on any other user’s channel not linked to me, those videos would get 5 to 10 times more impressions. I'm happy to test and prove this anytime, if you're interested.