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Hello everyone,

I'm genuinely eager to delve into the art of web scraping. I believe there are experienced individuals in this field who have gathered valuable insights, and it's beneficial to learn from their expertise.

Therefore, I'm seeking guidance on efficiently understanding website APIs—any tips, tricks, or perhaps interesting anecdotes you might have.

Just to note, I mainly work with Python and Linux.

Cheers!
 

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Check out the Bot Empire channel on YouTube, or look up Zennoposter tutorials.
 

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Check out the Bot Empire channel on YouTube, or look up Zennoposter tutorials.

Thanks, man! Is the Zennoposter guide still useful? I'm really curious because I saw it was copyrighted in 2011. Maybe I have the wrong one?

I did check out some stuff on YouTube, but it seemed pretty basic. I'm looking for the best ways to save time, like maybe bots that can make other bots—I'm not really sure. Honestly, I'm open to any ideas!
 

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Thanks, man! Is the Zennoposter guide still useful? I'm really curious because I saw it was copyrighted in 2011. Maybe I have the wrong one?

I did check out some stuff on YouTube, but it seemed pretty basic. I'm looking for the best ways to save time, like maybe bots that can make other bots—I'm not really sure. Honestly, I'm open to any ideas!

Python is the simplest way to create advanced bots with different features.
 

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I really like Zennoposter. I bought it a few years ago because I didn’t know how to make browser automation bots, and ZP was marketed as the solution. It’s no-code, drag-and-drop automation (though you can add custom code if you know how).

I still use it today, and it’s still great. I showed it to some friends, and they struggled with the learning curve. Maybe it’s just because I’ve been using it for so long, but I found it pretty easy to get the hang of. Sure, some advanced tasks were tricky, but with a bit of trial and error and some old YouTube tutorials, I managed. The interface is mostly drag-and-drop with a few variables to tweak. The YouTube videos are old, but the info is still relevant for using the software. They also have a helpful community forum where users share templates and tips for more complex tasks.

Another option is learning Python with Selenium or Requests. There are a ton of YouTube tutorials for that, like how to automate Tinder with Selenium. That was my first introduction to Selenium, and it worked really well for me. Having years of experience with ZP definitely helped me get the hang of it faster.
 

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I really like Zennoposter. I bought it a few years ago because I didn’t know how to make browser automation bots, and ZP was marketed as the solution. It’s no-code, drag-and-drop automation (though you can add custom code if you know how).

I still use it today, and it’s still great. I showed it to some friends, and they struggled with the learning curve. Maybe it’s just because I’ve been using it for so long, but I found it pretty easy to get the hang of. Sure, some advanced tasks were tricky, but with a bit of trial and error and some old YouTube tutorials, I managed. The interface is mostly drag-and-drop with a few variables to tweak. The YouTube videos are old, but the info is still relevant for using the software. They also have a helpful community forum where users share templates and tips for more complex tasks.

Another option is learning Python with Selenium or Requests. There are a ton of YouTube tutorials for that, like how to automate Tinder with Selenium. That was my first introduction to Selenium, and it worked really well for me. Having years of experience with ZP definitely helped me get the hang of it faster.

Thanks for the info on Zennoposter! Yeah, I'm mostly interested in using Python since I already know it. I just haven't used it for scraping or bots before—usually, I use it for data engineering stuff.
 

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Python is the simplest way to create advanced bots with different features.

Do you have any examples of how to do this? I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle things like websites that use random characters in their URLs. Also, how to inspect their HTML and what to look for—what's important and what can be ignored.
 

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Do you have any examples of how to do this? I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle things like websites that use random characters in their URLs. Also, how to inspect their HTML and what to look for—what's important and what can be ignored.

Check out any Python tutorial on YouTube for automating Tinder (or any other site). They walk you through everything, step by step.
 

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Check out any Python tutorial on YouTube for automating Tinder (or any other site). They walk you through everything, step by step.

For example, to save time, it would be helpful to know when it’s better to use Requests/HTTPX, Scrapy, or Selenium. What situations work best for each, why you'd choose one over the other, and what their drawbacks are. Maybe share some examples of things you’ve done with each tool?
 

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I’d also like to know what you think about headers and if there’s anything I should be careful about.
 

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I really like Zennoposter. I bought it a few years ago because I didn’t know how to make browser automation bots, and ZP was marketed as the solution. It’s no-code, drag-and-drop automation (though you can add custom code if you know how).

I still use it today, and it’s still great. I showed it to some friends, and they struggled with the learning curve. Maybe it’s just because I’ve been using it for so long, but I found it pretty easy to get the hang of. Sure, some advanced tasks were tricky, but with a bit of trial and error and some old YouTube tutorials, I managed. The interface is mostly drag-and-drop with a few variables to tweak. The YouTube videos are old, but the info is still relevant for using the software. They also have a helpful community forum where users share templates and tips for more complex tasks.

Another option is learning Python with Selenium or Requests. There are a ton of YouTube tutorials for that, like how to automate Tinder with Selenium. That was my first introduction to Selenium, and it worked really well for me. Having years of experience with ZP definitely helped me get the hang of it faster.

What do you think about tools that can automatically use a web browser?
 

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I usually like using Puppeteer or Selenium for automation, but it really depends on the website. I’ve never used ready-made tools for scraping, so I might be biased.

Sometimes, a tool that’s ready to use will be faster, but eventually, you’ll run into something it can’t do.

If you need something that works really well and doesn’t use too much memory, using HTTP requests is the best way. But this can be tricky because many websites try to block this. You’ll need to understand things like headers (you can see these by opening the network tab in your browser). You can find any request there and see what headers it uses. By removing some headers, you can figure out which ones are necessary. Sometimes, this is pretty easy.

If a website loads all its information on the server, you can just read the HTML (the code that makes the webpage). This is where pre-built scraping tools are helpful. But a lot of sites today create information on the fly, so you can’t use just HTML in those cases.

Most of the time, Puppeteer or Selenium will do what you need, and you’ll also learn the skills to switch to something else if needed. I like using C#, but you can also use JavaScript or Python with these tools.

Chrome has a great tool that can record your actions and turn them into Puppeteer code, which is a great way to get started without having to check the code on the page over and over.
 

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If you know how to code, it's better to use Selenium. A key part of automation is making the computer act like a person, like moving the mouse or typing text.
 

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You can find it on YouTube or on Stack Overflow, where there are lots of examples.
 

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I usually like using Puppeteer or Selenium for automation, but it really depends on the website. I’ve never used ready-made tools for scraping, so I might be biased.

Sometimes, a tool that’s ready to use will be faster, but eventually, you’ll run into something it can’t do.

If you need something that works really well and doesn’t use too much memory, using HTTP requests is the best way. But this can be tricky because many websites try to block this. You’ll need to understand things like headers (you can see these by opening the network tab in your browser). You can find any request there and see what headers it uses. By removing some headers, you can figure out which ones are necessary. Sometimes, this is pretty easy.

If a website loads all its information on the server, you can just read the HTML (the code that makes the webpage). This is where pre-built scraping tools are helpful. But a lot of sites today create information on the fly, so you can’t use just HTML in those cases.

Most of the time, Puppeteer or Selenium will do what you need, and you’ll also learn the skills to switch to something else if needed. I like using C#, but you can also use JavaScript or Python with these tools.

Chrome has a great tool that can record your actions and turn them into Puppeteer code, which is a great way to get started without having to check the code on the page over and over.

Thanks, this is really helpful! I’ll try the header method to learn more.
 
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