G-Ads Is most of the traffic from Propeller Ads fake, like 99% bots?

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I’ve been using Propeller Ads recently to run push ads for health VSL products. I’ve spent a few hundred dollars so far, but no sales yet (I wasn’t expecting any at this stage).

I’m curious if anyone is seeing consistent profits using Propeller Ads with health VSLs? Most of the zones I’m targeting have less than a 30% landing page CTR. It seems like there’s a lot of bot traffic or just low-quality traffic on their push network.
 
Are you using a tracker? Voluum has a built-in feature that can block bot traffic. And yes, every ad network that runs Push, Pop, and some other types of ads has bot traffic. Whether it’s PropellerAds, Adsterra, AdMaven, or others. I recommend not relying on just one network and instead spreading your offers across multiple ad networks. To me, PropellerAds still has less bot traffic compared to others.
 
PunkMega said:
Are you using a tracker? Voluum has a built-in feature that can block bot traffic. And yes, every ad network that runs Push, Pop, and some other types of ads has bot traffic. Whether it’s PropellerAds, Adsterra, AdMaven, or others. I recommend not relying on just one network and instead spreading your offers across multiple ad networks. To me, PropellerAds still has less bot traffic compared to others.
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One thing I like about Propeller is that they get a lot of traffic, more than other push networks.

So with Propeller, if you optimize well, you can easily make $1,000 or more in profit every day because they have enough traffic to handle that kind of scale.

However, they also have a lot of low-quality traffic.

I use the Bemob tracker. Even though Voluum might block bot traffic, I think you still end up paying for it on Propeller Ads. I don’t think a tracker can stop the clicks Propeller sends; they will still charge you based on CPC.

Yeah, there's a lot of bot traffic, and I mean a lot. If you check your tracker and look through the zone IDs where you’re buying clicks, you’ll see some zones getting just 5-10 visits each, and guess what? No clicks on the landing page. That’s a huge waste of money. It's no surprise that people spend a few hundred dollars sending Propeller traffic to a simple offer and end up with zero conversions. If you don’t start blocking those bad zones right away, you’ll definitely be losing money.
 
SelfDev said:
I use the Bemob tracker. Even though Voluum might block bot traffic, I think you still end up paying for it on Propeller Ads. I don’t think a tracker can stop the clicks Propeller sends; they will still charge you based on CPC.
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Of course, they will charge you. What I meant was that you can create your own list of zones to avoid, so in the future, you can save money by not targeting those zones.
 
PunkMega said:
Of course, they will charge you. What I meant was that you can create your own list of zones to avoid, so in the future, you can save money by not targeting those zones.
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The ideal situation is to never pay for bot traffic at all, but I guess that's pretty hard to avoid, haha.
 
I’ll write it out for you again :) Yes, there are some bots everywhere, but the reason it feels like bots are everywhere is that you might think real people who aren't interested in what you're selling are bots. They’re not! :) You have to understand that there are many different kinds of people with different interests, ages, religions, etc., all on the same website or zone. Anyway, if you want to see the real amount of bots and you use Binom tracker, I can share two small scripts with you that will show you 99% of the bots. (Or you can find them yourself on their blog in a post about events or something like that).
 
Trimblue said:
I’ll write it out for you again :) Yes, there are some bots everywhere, but the reason it feels like bots are everywhere is that you might think real people who aren't interested in what you're selling are bots. They’re not! :) You have to understand that there are many different kinds of people with different interests, ages, religions, etc., all on the same website or zone. Anyway, if you want to see the real amount of bots and you use Binom tracker, I can share two small scripts with you that will show you 99% of the bots. (Or you can find them yourself on their blog in a post about events or something like that).
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It might not be bots, but it's definitely low-quality traffic.

For example, there are people who click on push notifications and then leave right away.

There are a lot of these kinds of people in Propeller Ads networks.

It's really important to blacklist zones quickly after you’ve spent a little bit. Over 70% of those zone IDs aren't worth running ads on—they’re not profitable and probably never will be.

At least, that’s been my experience.
 
PunkMega said:
every ad network that runs Push, Pop, and some other types of ads has bot traffic.
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Not all networks, just the bad ones!

PropellerAds, Adsterra, AdMaven, or others.
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None of these networks are good, especially Propeller and Adsterra. They focus on bad ads and scams. Malvertising hardly ever works and just wastes money. They mostly work with countries where people have a hard time stopping scams.

All of these companies are based in Cyprus (for legal reasons).

They also send traffic through redirects to their sites that make money using better networks.

SelfDev said:
Most of the zones I’m targeting have less than a 30% landing page CTR. It seems like there’s a lot of bot traffic or just low-quality traffic on their push network.
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You’ll be lucky to get any sales. Don’t be tricked just because they bought a banner on MMO – they didn’t buy it on Google for a reason.
 
SelfDev said:
It might not be bots, but it's definitely low-quality traffic.

For example, there are people who click on push notifications and then leave right away.

There are a lot of these kinds of people in Propeller Ads networks.

It's really important to blacklist zones quickly after you’ve spent a little bit. Over 70% of those zone IDs aren't worth running ads on—they’re not profitable and probably never will be.

At least, that’s been my experience.
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Nah, Propeller is actually pretty good compared to others. You can try this test: run 3 campaigns with 3 different offers for 3 different audiences: older people (like health products), men (maybe dating), and women (like weight loss or beauty products). You’ll see that each group will give different results based on the audience. Some zones will have more older people, others more men or women. You’ll need separate blacklists and whitelists for each audience, not just for the ad network or niche (some people say they make one universal blacklist, but that’s not true!).

Also, if you want to succeed with these types of ads, your tracker should be your best friend. I recommend adding columns for things like time spent on the landing page, scrolling rate, landing page conversion rate, and click-through rate. You might get fewer clicks, but a better conversion rate on the offer page. You can also try adding scripts to your landing page, like a back button or even audio (if the ad network allows it). Plus, adding a script to collect push subscriptions can help you get better results!
 
Haha, Propeller is definitely one of the best. Just because you’re not getting sales doesn’t mean it’s fake traffic or that Propeller is a bad network. It’s actually the best compared to others.

Think about it from the user’s point of view – they’re just trying to download or watch something, and suddenly your ad pops up. How do you expect them to buy anything like that?

The solution is simple: you need to be more aggressive with your advertising.
 
Propellers haven't been working for me. If the network is bad, I can't even imagine how tough it must be for everyone else.
 
Did you use any tracking tools for clicks? Or any software for heatmaps?
 
WetSizzlin said:
Not all networks, just the bad ones!

None of these networks are good, especially Propeller and Adsterra. They focus on bad ads and scams. Malvertising hardly ever works and just wastes money. They mostly work with countries where people have a hard time stopping scams.

All of these companies are based in Cyprus (for legal reasons).

They also send traffic through redirects to their sites that make money using better networks.



You’ll be lucky to get any sales. Don’t be tricked just because they bought a banner on MMO – they didn’t buy it on Google for a reason.
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So, which networks do you think are worth trying? I'm really tired of all the bots.
 
Are click tracking tools like BeMob, Skro, and others good enough to tell if an ad network is sending fake bot traffic? Or do I need heatmap tools instead?
 
No, PropellerAds doesn’t have 99% bot traffic. It has different ways to filter out bots, but some fake activity can still happen.
 
WetSizzlin said:
None of these networks are good, especially Propeller and Adsterra. They focus on bad ads and scams. Malvertising hardly ever works and just wastes money. They mostly work with countries where people have a hard time stopping scams.
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Yes, that's true. I remember the first time I used Adsterra and used Reddit to drive traffic to my site... a lot of users complained that there was malware on my site, and I was like "what's going on?" until I did some research and figured out it was from Adsterra. I’m not sure about Propeller Ads, but I also stopped using it because the traffic didn’t convert well for me, and it seemed pretty low quality. I guess it depends on what you’re using it for and how much you care about what the network does as long as you get paid. ;) But if you're buying traffic, I wouldn't recommend either of them.
 
Haha, yeah, people who advertise on pop-up networks will usually go for aggressive ads because pop-ups have such low click rates. That doesn’t mean the networks are scams or anything. As for Propeller, it’s by far the best compared to the others, in my opinion. I use it for advertising myself.
 
Try switching up your push ad provider. I’m working in the health industry with push ads right now.
 
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