GOALS GOAL - Minimum 10.000$ - 100.000$ THIS YEAR! Selling and reselling services!

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This sounds interesting! I’ll be following along.

 

[Screevava]

Greetings, Join me on my quest to achieve $10,000 in monthly profits by reselling services.

BACKGROUND

• 29-year-old male, residing in a third-world country.
• From August to December of the previous year, generated $40,000 in profits by selling and reselling online services to businesses.
• Unfortunately, half of the earnings were spent recklessly last year. Additionally, on 1/1/2023, encountered a setback where $19,000 was stolen from my bank after being drugged on New Year's Eve. Admitting my mistake, as I neglected the rules I had prominently displayed in my room: 1. Avoid spending money on unnecessary items. 2. Refrain from excessive drinking to remain aware of surroundings. However, let's move forward and focus on the journey towards achieving $10,000 in monthly profits.

PLAN

1. Engage in selling and reselling online services to businesses, targeting offers with substantial margins, such as:

• An offer with a $500 margin: Aiming to secure 20 clients per month (feasible but challenging).
• An offer with a $2000 margin: Targeting 5 clients monthly to reach the $10,000 goal (manageable).
• An offer yielding a $4000 margin: Seeking 3 clients monthly to surpass the $10,000 mark (highly achievable).

=> Occasionally, securing a client willing to pay a monthly fee, such as $2500, can significantly simplify the process of reaching $10,000 in monthly profits. => The specific services I'm selling or reselling will not be disclosed.

Let's embark on this journey together!



2.Acquire clients through cold emails and LinkedIn.

• This is self-explanatory.

PROGRESS

• Successfully closed two deals.

1. $500 (02/01/2024)
2. $1000 (06/01/2024)

Total revenue: $1500. Total profit: $683.50 (Paid service provider and bank account fees; I use wise.com for international bank accounts)

Screenshots are attached below.

CONCLUSION

• Weekly updates will be provided on Saturdays.
• Maintain sobriety and refrain from smoking.
• Engage in Deep Work, i.e., three-hour sessions of focused and productive work with no disruptions.
• Commit to six workouts per week.
• Aim to achieve 100 push-ups with knuckles by December (self-imposed challenge).
• Outperform everyone!
• Avoid direct messages requesting favors; I am not selling anything. Feel free to ask questions on the thread.

-> WISHING EVERYONE ON MMO A PROSPEROUS 2024. LET'S GET TO WORK, GUYS, AND EMBRACE OUR HUSTLE! OUTWORK THE WORK AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR OWN FUTURES. lol


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If you don’t mind me asking, are you reselling services that need a lot of back-and-forth communication?

Like, do you have to keep showing the client updates, like with building a website? Or is it more like "send 10k visitors" where you get the info once and pass it along to the person you’re buying from?

Your profit is really impressive for a developing country. Well done!

 

[Poplec]

Porn itself is not illegal, and I don’t have an issue with NSFW content, though I rarely consume it.
Re-uploading or using other people's photos without permission is illegal because of copyright, like reposting TikTok or Instagram photos of girls without their consent.
So yeah, I agree that re-uploading porn is illegal—my mistake there. But uploading adult content where models are paid and give consent is 100% legal.
Reselling services, however, goes against the terms of service on most freelance platforms.
If you want to do it the right way, you can create an agency on Upwork, hire skilled freelancers, and apply for jobs as an agency. That’s completely legit.

Or you could start an agency and find clients through cold emailing, LinkedIn outreach, and other methods.

That’s totally legit.

But claiming you know something when you don’t is not okay; it’s misleading.

I’m not great at writing proposals, but I can write good code. You’re good at writing sales copy.

So, you could connect with freelancers, and they could send you links to jobs they want to apply for. Then, you’d get paid, let’s say $200 or more, for each copy you write, regardless of whether the freelancer gets the job.

That’s a legit way to do it!

Claiming to be an expert when you're not is a big deal, kind of like a doctor who has great sales skills but consults a real expert when examining patients.
It’s like having a fake degree.
Your skill is in sales, so you could either work as a project manager for a company or get hired by freelancers, not the other way around.
This is definitely dishonest, no matter what anyone says.
You’re pretending to have knowledge, which is just like using someone else's ID.

You’re on the wrong page. This website is called Black Hat World, not White Hat Coder.

 

[Sealoye]

Are you against arbitrage or price gouging? Because those are two very different things. Price gouging is definitely unethical, and I think it's even illegal in many countries.

But arbitrage has many layers. When you resell a service, you don’t necessarily pretend to know something and pass it off with delays. The reseller could act as a project manager. For example, I struggle to find clients, but if someone else does and resells my service, it doesn’t have to be a bad thing.

Also, you mentioned you’re okay with re-uploading adult content and reposting nudes, but those are actually unethical and often illegal.

Porn itself is not illegal, and I don’t have an issue with NSFW content, though I rarely consume it.
Re-uploading or using other people's photos without permission is illegal because of copyright, like reposting TikTok or Instagram photos of girls without their consent.
So yeah, I agree that re-uploading porn is illegal—my mistake there. But uploading adult content where models are paid and give consent is 100% legal.
Reselling services, however, goes against the terms of service on most freelance platforms.
If you want to do it the right way, you can create an agency on Upwork, hire skilled freelancers, and apply for jobs as an agency. That’s completely legit.

Or you could start an agency and find clients through cold emailing, LinkedIn outreach, and other methods.

That’s totally legit.

But claiming you know something when you don’t is not okay; it’s misleading.

I’m not great at writing proposals, but I can write good code. You’re good at writing sales copy.

So, you could connect with freelancers, and they could send you links to jobs they want to apply for. Then, you’d get paid, let’s say $200 or more, for each copy you write, regardless of whether the freelancer gets the job.

That’s a legit way to do it!

Claiming to be an expert when you're not is a big deal, kind of like a doctor who has great sales skills but consults a real expert when examining patients.
It’s like having a fake degree.
Your skill is in sales, so you could either work as a project manager for a company or get hired by freelancers, not the other way around.
This is definitely dishonest, no matter what anyone says.
You’re pretending to have knowledge, which is just like using someone else's ID.

 

[Taistandb]

Porn itself is not illegal, and I don’t have an issue with NSFW content, though I rarely consume it.
Re-uploading or using other people's photos without permission is illegal because of copyright, like reposting TikTok or Instagram photos of girls without their consent.
So yeah, I agree that re-uploading porn is illegal—my mistake there. But uploading adult content where models are paid and give consent is 100% legal.
Reselling services, however, goes against the terms of service on most freelance platforms.
If you want to do it the right way, you can create an agency on Upwork, hire skilled freelancers, and apply for jobs as an agency. That’s completely legit.

Or you could start an agency and find clients through cold emailing, LinkedIn outreach, and other methods.

That’s totally legit.

But claiming you know something when you don’t is not okay; it’s misleading.

I’m not great at writing proposals, but I can write good code. You’re good at writing sales copy.

So, you could connect with freelancers, and they could send you links to jobs they want to apply for. Then, you’d get paid, let’s say $200 or more, for each copy you write, regardless of whether the freelancer gets the job.

That’s a legit way to do it!

Claiming to be an expert when you're not is a big deal, kind of like a doctor who has great sales skills but consults a real expert when examining patients.
It’s like having a fake degree.
Your skill is in sales, so you could either work as a project manager for a company or get hired by freelancers, not the other way around.
This is definitely dishonest, no matter what anyone says.
You’re pretending to have knowledge, which is just like using someone else's ID.

You're in the wrong place! This site is called Black Hat World, not White Hat World, Mr. Rule Follower!

 

[Proudel]

Greetings, Join me on my quest to achieve $10,000 in monthly profits by reselling services.

BACKGROUND

• 29-year-old male, residing in a third-world country.
• From August to December of the previous year, generated $40,000 in profits by selling and reselling online services to businesses.
• Unfortunately, half of the earnings were spent recklessly last year. Additionally, on 1/1/2023, encountered a setback where $19,000 was stolen from my bank after being drugged on New Year's Eve. Admitting my mistake, as I neglected the rules I had prominently displayed in my room: 1. Avoid spending money on unnecessary items. 2. Refrain from excessive drinking to remain aware of surroundings. However, let's move forward and focus on the journey towards achieving $10,000 in monthly profits.

PLAN

1. Engage in selling and reselling online services to businesses, targeting offers with substantial margins, such as:

• An offer with a $500 margin: Aiming to secure 20 clients per month (feasible but challenging).
• An offer with a $2000 margin: Targeting 5 clients monthly to reach the $10,000 goal (manageable).
• An offer yielding a $4000 margin: Seeking 3 clients monthly to surpass the $10,000 mark (highly achievable).

=> Occasionally, securing a client willing to pay a monthly fee, such as $2500, can significantly simplify the process of reaching $10,000 in monthly profits. => The specific services I'm selling or reselling will not be disclosed.

Let's embark on this journey together!



2.Acquire clients through cold emails and LinkedIn.

• This is self-explanatory.

PROGRESS

• Successfully closed two deals.

1. $500 (02/01/2024)
2. $1000 (06/01/2024)

Total revenue: $1500. Total profit: $683.50 (Paid service provider and bank account fees; I use wise.com for international bank accounts)

Screenshots are attached below.

CONCLUSION

• Weekly updates will be provided on Saturdays.
• Maintain sobriety and refrain from smoking.
• Engage in Deep Work, i.e., three-hour sessions of focused and productive work with no disruptions.
• Commit to six workouts per week.
• Aim to achieve 100 push-ups with knuckles by December (self-imposed challenge).
• Outperform everyone!
• Avoid direct messages requesting favors; I am not selling anything. Feel free to ask questions on the thread.

-> WISHING EVERYONE ON MMO A PROSPEROUS 2024. LET'S GET TO WORK, GUYS, AND EMBRACE OUR HUSTLE! OUTWORK THE WORK AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR OWN FUTURES. lol


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Hope everything goes great for you!

 

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So, when you say selling and reselling, does that mean you're offering your own service and also reselling others' services?

 

[YauSmug]

Hi!
What do you say in your emails? How do people decide to give money to a stranger in these crazy times? Do they ask to see your portfolio or your website?

Where do you find the email addresses? Do you scrape them, or do you just go to specific companies’ websites and write to them? If you send 100 emails, how many replies do you usually get? 1 or 2?

About LinkedIn:
I have a lot of companies on my friends list too. How do you reach out to them? How do you start the conversation?

Like, do you say, 'Hi, my name is ... Do you need any website services? I’d like to help your business grow for a low price, like $1,000 to $2,000'? Is that how you do it?

1) Make sure your emails are personal. Reach out directly to the company’s owner—not to a general address like info@xyz(.)com, since those often get ignored. Try contacting john@xyz(.)com, the CEO, instead. Lower-level staff usually won’t forward your message up. Also, keep it short. CEOs get hundreds of emails each day, so they’re not going to read a long one. Short and sweet works best.

2) To get clients to invest in you, focus on the right market. Offer something they truly need, like a service with a clear ROI (return on investment) or something that will help them stand out from their competitors. Target businesses that are growing—not struggling. Remember, you’re selling to a person (the CEO), not the company. Once they’re interested, they’ll direct you to send an invoice to accounting.

3) Have a professional website and email. This doesn’t mean using a gmail address; you need something professional to make a good impression. A basic website plus a custom email domain costs around $60 per year, though cheaper options exist if you’re on a budget.

4) When using LinkedIn, follow up after emailing. You can send something like, “Hey John, I really agree with your view on xyz (mention a post of theirs). Sent you an email and hope we can connect soon.” Customize your message to make it authentic.

5) Don’t mention prices in your first email for two reasons: (i) mentioning dollar signs often gets emails flagged as spam, and (ii) you’ll look too eager without first establishing value.

Critique on Sample Email:
"Hello, my name is… Do you need any website services? I can offer my services to help your business grow at an affordable rate, like $1000-$2000."

You need to be clear about what you’re selling. Are you offering SEO, Facebook ads, TikTok ads, or something else? The business owner won’t know what they need unless you’re specific. Avoid mentioning price, especially not by calling yourself “cheap.” Major brands like Facebook, Google, or Apple don’t advertise themselves as the cheapest option; they emphasize quality. Starting with a “cheap” pitch often leads to low-value business relationships, which isn’t ideal. Sure, affordable clients can sometimes keep things afloat, but speaking from experience, it’s not always the best foundation for growth.

Pitching yourself as “cheap” is like trying too hard to please—it might get attention, but often at the cost of being undervalued. If you need testimonials, sometimes offering services for free initially can help build your credibility. That’s just part of business.

Here’s an example message:
“Hey John, great website! My name is Henry, and I specialize in helping businesses like yours rank higher on Google, sometimes even on the first page. This visibility boost can lead to more revenue. Let’s connect and discuss how we can make it work for you.”

Side Note on SEO:
SEO can be profitable, but it’s not always ideal for someone who needs quick cash flow. SEO takes months (often 4-6) before clients see a return on investment, which can be tough to explain to new clients. But if you’re willing to wait, it can be a rewarding niche.

I really admire your determination and bravery. I'm sorry about what happened to you when you were drunk. I know you’ll be okay!

Hey, sometimes things just don’t go as planned, but at least it kicked off my journey to stay sober. My goal is to stay sober this year…well, except for my birthday, haha! I’ll do my best to make it. Thanks, man.

Definitely worth following! Here’s to your success!

Thanks so much!

Wow, those are really big numbers, especially for a developing country. Congrats!

I’m guessing most of the money comes from reselling rather than direct sales, right?

Good luck with everything!

Haha, those numbers are decent but not huge. I’m from Kenya, and while it's a developing country, there are plenty of millionaires here. Hitting $50k monthly gives you some freedom, but it's not the finish line—there’s always a new level to reach, and you'll start at the bottom there too.

Right now, most of my profit comes from selling my own services, though I’m hoping to shift more towards reselling, which is more scalable.

Example from last week:

Closed 2 deals:
Deal 1: $500 (01/05/2022) - my service, profit = $500
Deal 2: $1000 (01/07/2022) - reselling service, profit = $183
Total Revenue: $1500
Total Profit: $683.50

I’d like to know this too. Thanks!

Already covered that above!

I’d love to check out your funnel!

The funnel isn’t set up yet, and nothing’s automated. It’s just: “Send offer email – chat with client – get paid – deliver the service.”

I'm following! It would be cool to see how many messages you send each month compared to your earnings, and any changes you've made to your email system (without sharing too much, of course).

Good luck!

You could send emails to 100 clients and not get a single sale or even a response. (It happens, sorry!) On the flip side, you might send just 10 emails while hanging out with friends and end up with two sales.

So, focus on what works and keep doing that, while avoiding what doesn’t! It's a bit funny, but if you keep showing up, you'll definitely discover a successful pattern!

I don't have a problem with dropshipping or running an agency with employees.

But this whole thing with reselling services, especially the ones hyped up by YouTube gurus, really bothers me.

You claim to know how to do something, then hand it off to a third party, which causes delays and other issues. It's not illegal, but it feels unethical to me.

By the way, I don't mind things like re-uploading adult content, reposting nudes, or cold emailing (as long as it's not spam).

I know this is BHW, but I prefer more legit, white-hat methods. With the right tools, they can lead to quick money and exponential growth, just like MMO methods.

The main difference is that black-hat stuff eventually gets shut down, while white-hat methods, after some initial effort, offer endless potential.

Just my two cents.

If you run an agency with employees, it’s common to say you’re the best at something, even if your team handles the work.

If your employees are remote or "third-party," that’s okay! It’s not illegal, but if it feels wrong or unethical to you, maybe consider a different business model.

Honestly, I think it’s odd to view outsourcing as unethical. In business, that’s called arbitrage. If you’re skilled in marketing, you can promote SEO services and hire an expert to do the actual work.

You’d be surprised to know that even the Android or Apple phones you use have parts sourced from different companies—they just assemble everything and mark up the prices. It’s all about buying low and selling high!

If you think buying low and selling high is "black hat," remember that many agency owners outsource, including well-known entrepreneurs like Gary Vee with his media agency. Major companies do it too!

In business, if you try to do everything yourself, you’ll likely struggle. Steve Jobs wasn’t the engineer at Apple, after all!

I once read about a billionaire who said, “If you can sell something, someone else can make it for you. If you can sell a service, you can outsource that too.”

And about delays—sometimes your own employees might mess things up, too.

Nothing here is illegal!

Are you against arbitrage or price gouging? Because those are two very different things. Price gouging is definitely unethical, and I think it's even illegal in many countries.

But arbitrage has many layers. When you resell a service, you don’t necessarily pretend to know something and pass it off with delays. The reseller could act as a project manager. For example, I struggle to find clients, but if someone else does and resells my service, it doesn’t have to be a bad thing.

Also, you mentioned you’re okay with re-uploading adult content and reposting nudes, but those are actually unethical and often illegal.

You really understand business! You’re awesome!

This sounds interesting! I’ll be following along.

Thanks, @kasplo!

 

[YauSmug]

Hope everything goes great for you!

Thank you!

So, when you say selling and reselling, does that mean you're offering your own service and also reselling others' services?

That’s right, my friend!